Agentic Software Engineering Book

(agenticse-book.github.io)

47 points | by bananaflag 2 hours ago

11 comments

  • MisterBiggs 3 minutes ago
    For writing with an LLM you really have to be precise and honest with your AI usage and I don't think the disclosure here does a good job at that. If you sample a few random pages there are huge shifts in style and tone.

    The future where your AI expands your sentence into a few paragraphs that my AI distills down into a sentence sucks just send me your rough draft

  • naillang 10 minutes ago
    The skepticism in this thread is fair, but I think it misses the more interesting question: what changes about software engineering verification when the author is an AI rather than a human?

    When a human writes code, you can reason about intent. When an AI writes it, the cognitive overhead of understanding the output is higher, not lower. This makes formal guarantees at the output level more valuable -- not less. The interesting work in "agentic SE" isn't coordination patterns, it's: how do you specify what correct looks like in a way that's verifiable at generation time?

    Most current AI coding tools solve the wrong problem: they help AI write human-readable code. But if the human is primarily reviewing, not writing, the bottleneck shifts to verification, not readability.

    • yousif_123123 2 minutes ago
      It's not that I don't like AI generated text, it's that I'm tired of the whole it's not this it's that style of writing..

      AI code is much easier to read than AI text (or book). It's kind of like what people think of the AI generated book cover. That's how I feel about the generic AI writing.

  • BloondAndDoom 28 minutes ago
    And the full circle begins AI writes a lot of content and we ask another AI to summarize it. It’s like that project where the guy keeps uploading and downloading a video to YouTube until it’s just mess of pixelated frames. I feel like AI written content is similar.
  • MajorBee 47 minutes ago
    Why is so much of generated AI art so... literal? The cover art of this PDF literally spells out what the graphics are supposed to represent. The vast majority of AI visuals on LinkedIn are the same way. If this is what's in store as the future of art, at least commercial art -- feels like a huge step backwards if I'm being honest.

    And anyway, what's the point of generating a massive tome like this on a topic evolving as fast as agentic software? Sure it will be outdated within months, if not weeks...

    • BloondAndDoom 32 minutes ago
      I’m guessing because it’s not produced by artists or people who has an eye for art generally.

      When it comes to the book, changes are 80% is written by AI. I mean lots of content produced just pure AI, I’m following some AI subreddits and majority of the posts very obviously generate with couple of prompts, they don’t even bother styling while copy pasting. I’m really struggling to read online content recently.

    • MajorBee 42 minutes ago
      I just noticed that the PDF cover simply says "© <Author>", not the traditional style of author attribution, which usually is just plain "<Author>". I don't know why, I found it interesting...
  • avaer 1 hour ago
    I skimmed this; it isn't terrible content (even though many parts are clearly AI written).

    But I don't understand the purpose of this book. Is it an educational material, a speculative fiction, or an essay trying to convince the reader of something?

    Because if you wanted any of these things, you could literally skip the book and go straight to the AI that will give it to you, tailored for your project.

    This isn't a criticism, more a philosophical question I'm asking myself after 25 years of coding.

    • handfuloflight 1 hour ago
      Why do people read magazines about <x thing they can do> when they can be doing that thing?
      • avaer 1 hour ago
        That's a great answer. I hadn't considered that this could be considered casual literary entertainment.
  • ofrzeta 1 hour ago
    That first quote by "Prof. Daniel M. German" is made up (hallucinated)?
  • esafak 1 hour ago
    The author appears to be a CS professor. If it is the same person, it is interesting that he chose not to reveal his affiliation, or mention this document on his page.
  • nylonstrung 1 hour ago
    This is way too dense, you need to distill your thesis and interesting ideas down to a small post if you expect people spending time reading a 417 page PDF
    • MajorBee 36 minutes ago
      You're crazy if you think the target demo of "business leaders" and "thought leaders" aren't going to dump it into their favorite LLM first thing and prompt their way into a summary.
    • bananaflag 1 hour ago
      I'm not the author, I just got sent the link by someone else :)
  • aaa_aaa 1 hour ago
    417 pages of ai infested text.
  • ddoottddoott 1 hour ago
    Morpheus with a full head of hair!
  • erklik 1 hour ago
    > Unable to display PDF directly.

    So :shrug:

    Edit: Downloaded the pdf, started reading it. So much slop. I think something of value could be surfaced much earlier.