5 comments

  • ashwinnair99 1 hour ago
    The concern isn't that AI reasons differently. It's that we start outsourcing the slow thinking entirely and then forget we ever had it.
    • n_u 12 minutes ago
      Are you a LLM? This comment is written twice in this thread and of your last 10 comments, 6 use the pattern "X isn't Y" or "X didn't Y, Z did"

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47469767 > The concern isn't that AI reasons differently.

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47469834 > The concern isn't that AI reasons differently.

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47470111 > The problem isn't time.

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47469760 > Airlines have been quietly expanding what they can remove you for. This isn't really about headphones.

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47469448 > Good tech losing isn't new, it's just always a bit sad when it happens slowly

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47469437 > The tool didn't fail here, the person did

      • christophilus 6 minutes ago
        Definitely AI. Every comment sounds like GPT.
    • keiferski 5 minutes ago
      ”Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this, the peak of your civilization. I say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization which is of course what this is all about.“
    • pepperoni_pizza 1 hour ago
      I already noticed that. When I feel lazy, I feel like reaching for the AI. Exactly the same laziness voice that nudges me to drive instead of walking.

      But then I go running and swimming for fun, and there is no laziness voice there, telling me to stop, because I enjoy it. And similarly with AI, I only use it for things where I don't care about, like various corporate bs. Maybe the cure for AI-brain is to care about and be passionate about things.

      Conversely, does this mean that the kind of people who use AI for everything don't care about anything?

      • necrotic_comp 33 minutes ago
        There's something interesting I've found about my interactions with the AI - I use it as a thought-partner. I don't ask it to solve a problem for me (well, first at least!) I think about it as a tool to work with, engage with the problem, and spit out a result that I then test and review.

        I see it as part of the feedback loop, and it speeds up some of the mechanical drudgery, while not removing any of the semantic problems inherent in problem solving. In other words, there's things machines are good at, and things humans are good at - if we each stick to our strengths, we can move incredibly fast.

      • delijati 46 minutes ago
        That is why i compare it to fast-food. From time to time you enjoy it but you should not consume it too much ;)
  • gmuslera 55 minutes ago
    The main problem with "System 3" is that it have its own kind of "cognitive biases", like System 1, but those new cognitive biases are designed by marketing, politics, culture and whatever censor or makes visible the original training. Even if the process, the processing and whatever else around was perfect (that is not, i.e. hallucinations)

    But, we still have the System 1, and survived and reached this stage because of it, because even a bad guess is better than the slowness of doing things right. It have its problems, but sometimes you must reach a compromise.

    • HPsquared 24 minutes ago
      I suppose the publishing process has always existed as system 3. It's just that now we have a new way to read and write with an abstract "rest of the world".
  • kikkupico 28 minutes ago
    Contrary to the general opinion, I feel that AI has IMPROVED my cognitive skills. I find myself discovering solutions to problems I've always struggled with (without asking AI about it, of course). I also find myself becoming much better at thinking on my feet during regular conversations. I believe I'm spending more time deep thinking than ever before because I can leave the boring cognitive stuff to AI, and that's giving my mind tougher workouts and making it stronger; but I could be completely wrong.
    • siva7 8 minutes ago
      It's so fascinating, i feel the same but at the same i feel like most people get dumber than before ai (and most seem to struggle adapting ai)
  • Ozzie_osman 27 minutes ago
    When humans have an easy way to do something that is almost as good, we choose that easy way. Call it laziness, energy conservation, coddling, etc. The hard thing then becomes hard to do even when the easy thing isn't available, because the cognitive muscle and the discipline atrophy.

    Like kids who are never taught to do things for themselves.

    • tac19 22 minutes ago
      Do you refuse to use a calculator or spreadsheet, because doing long hand division helps you exercise your mental muscle? Do you refuse to use a database, because it will make your memory weaker? Or, do you refuse to use a car, because it makes you less able to walk when the car is unavailable? No. Because the car empowers you to do something that, at the very least, takes a lot longer on foot.

      People have worried with every single new technology that it will enfeeble the masses, rather than empower them, and yet in the end, we usually find ourselves better off.

  • ashwinnair99 1 hour ago
    The concern isn't that AI reasons differently. It's that we stop practicing the slow thinking ourselves and then quietly forget we ever had it.