10 comments

  • 2ndorderthought 1 hour ago
    "my model is the most dangerous"

    "No mine is the most dangerous"

    "Nuh uh mine is"

    "Mine could kill everyone!"

    "Mine could do it faster!"

    "Prove it!!!"

    This is where we are

    • davidgrenier 1 hour ago
      Yeah I guess two companies who would otherwise be considered going for bankruptcy have models too expensive to run. As they don't see themselves making money any time soon, they have to turn every future model into a weird fascination.
    • concinds 1 hour ago
      These models demonstrably have good vulnerability research capabilities.

      I'm sure their marketing department is ecstatic but you guys are far more hype-based than what you're calling out.

    • brikym 1 hour ago
      It's like that phone call in The Big Short where Goldman suddenly change their mind once they hold a position.
    • vasco 1 hour ago
      Would AGI start by hacking competing labs to hamper their progress?
      • Avicebron 1 hour ago
        You'll have to define what you mean by AGI
        • fodkodrasz 1 hour ago
          AGI: Automatically Generating Income
          • gordonhart 0 minutes ago
            This is a surprisingly concrete and defensible definition of AGI.
  • jwr 1 hour ago
    I have no idea why people still even attempt to believe anything that comes out of Altman's mouth. Do we not learn from the past?
    • apples_oranges 1 hour ago
      Idk about Altman, I missed that he’s a bad guy now apparently, but people also still listen to certain politicians that routinely lie every day and don’t even bother to make the lies fit the other ones they said before, so..
      • michelb 47 minutes ago
        Has there been a single positive post about Altman?
        • giwook 11 minutes ago
          I wonder what that says about Altman.
      • GuB-42 50 minutes ago
        Altman played no small part in the current price of RAM. He told everyone he would buy 40% of all the RAM, causing shortages and a huge increase in price, just to take it back a few months later. So yeah, he is a bad guy now.

        People don't become bad guys just because they lie. The consequences of their actions (and their lies) matter more. Take Elon Musk for instance, he has always been a recognized liar, even when he was a good guy. What changed? Before, he was famous for making the electric car people actually wanted to drive, and cool rockets. Then came the politics: supporting the party most of his fans disliked, being responsible for many government job losses, in particular in the field of environmental preservation (ironic for a supporter of "green" energy), etc...

        • giwook 10 minutes ago
          That's far from the only reason why he's "a bad guy" now.
      • xandrius 1 hour ago
        You missed literally every single post/article about the guy?
        • giwook 10 minutes ago
          More likely that confirmation bias acted as a filter.
  • pluc 1 hour ago
    My thinking is that if there would be more money in releasing Mythos and Cyber than there is in just scary unverifiable (or verified using very favorable context - Mythos) propaganda, they would. These aren't people that go for second best or care about the state of the world.
    • xandrius 1 hour ago
      Make it sound "scary good", tell everyone and their mom, charge gullible companies $$$$$ for its premium access and then move on.
      • lossolo 51 minutes ago
        And government contracts.
  • Xmd5a 55 minutes ago
    >Me: ok but you did not answer my question: is it possible to engineer paranoia ?

    >ChatGPT: This content was flagged for possible cybersecurity risk. If this seems wrong, try rephrasing your request. To get authorized for security work, join the Trusted Access Cyber program.

  • sexylinux 12 minutes ago
    Is this a model that will finally work without creating errors?
  • cmiles8 1 hour ago
    It’s a marketing move, pure and simple.

    Put up velvet ropes outside… leak out rumors about the horrors inside. Whether it’s LLMs or carnies with tents full of “freaks” it’s the same playbook.

    Watching OpenAI tumble from the clear market leader into “hey guys us too!” territory has been insightful.

  • mnmnmn 36 minutes ago
    OpenAI is such trash. Worked with them on a project, they blew off meetings, lied to us, etc
  • le-mark 37 minutes ago
    It’s clear at this point local models are sufficient so what gives? These big providers don’t have a leg to stand on. Their only path to relevance is super ai that local models can’t run. So the “we have it but you can’t use it” is either true or a con. I bet it’s a con.

    I personally am ready to buy the drop when this bubble pops.

    • bryancoxwell 16 minutes ago
      I’m not up to date on local models, but is that clear?
      • literalAardvark 1 minute ago
        Gemma4:e4b is crazy good and quite usable on 10 years old midrange hardware.

        Not sure about the security capabilities and haven't tested it all that well, as I usually just use hosted models, but I do find myself using it and it's been quite successful for parsing unstructured data, writing small focused scripts and translations.

        The fact that I retain control of the data itself makes it incredibly useful, as I work in an environment where I can't just paste internal stuff into Codex.

      • le-mark 2 minutes ago
        They are 6-12 months behind the “frontier” models. This mean anthropic, openai, and google don’t have a moat, they’re on a treadmill running to stay ahead. Treadmills don’t justify their valuation.
  • feverzsj 1 hour ago
    With subsidy gone, token price goes sky high. The biggest shit show is about to happen.
    • xandrius 1 hour ago
      Then we switch to open LLMs which are not backed by greedy VCs and headed by evil white dudes.
      • jurgenburgen 57 minutes ago
        That’s great but who will pay for all the data center debt?
        • cmiles8 54 minutes ago
          The debt goes bad and those that issued the debt absorb losses. Many that went in deep lose their shirts.

          Thats how this stuff works, although there’s a whole generation that’s not seen the back side of a bubble and seems to think there’s no such thing as a downside.

          • giwook 9 minutes ago
            Just their shirts?

            I'd rather lose my pants if I had to lose anything, so then I'd still be presentable for Zoom calls.

          • throwaway132448 30 minutes ago
            2007 called they want their free-market philosophy back.
        • 2ndorderthought 48 minutes ago
          Let them fail before it gets even worse is my take. The future is small but capable local models.
        • robohoe 55 minutes ago
          The taxpayers and paying customers that’s who!
  • SadErn 1 hour ago
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