The locals don't know

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40 points | by herbertl 3 hours ago

13 comments

  • gwbas1c 1 minute ago
    I live in a very touristy area:

    > P.S. if you are a local, you can do all of this too.

    Last year, after spending a bunch of money putting in a fence, and having a puppy that didn't travel well, we decided that we were just going to take a week off and be tourists at home. We visited the museums we've driven by daily for eight years, and had a blast.

    And, living in a touristy area, I want to point out that "do what the locals do" is excellent advice. I'll tell you all about where to get great food, great hikes, and not-too-crowded beaches. (Except the residents-only beach. We reserve that for us.)

  • zarzavat 1 hour ago
    The corollary of this is that if you are a local you should do some more touristy things.

    I don't mean to go to a tourist trap and get scammed, but just enjoy your city a little more and do some things that usually only tourists do.

    For example, despite living most of my life in London, I've never been to the Tower of London. Why would I? It's for tourists. Except it's probably quite fascinating, especially for a local.

    • tonyedgecombe 54 minutes ago
      Wasn’t this the original definition of staycation. That you would stay at home and make day trips out to local destinations for a week.
      • saltcured 31 minutes ago
        For some, it means you break out the tiny paper umbrellas to put in a drink and sit on your own balcony or sofa instead of a tourist beach...
    • jsmith99 49 minutes ago
      As a fellow Londoner I can confirm it's worth visiting and the crown jewels are also nicely presented. Don't be fooled into queueing for the bloody tower torture chamber, anything you can see seemed to be a Victorian fantasy.
    • peterlada 40 minutes ago
      100%. I've lived in Paris well over a year and finally walked up on the Eiffel Tower and I enjoyed it. But of course not in July or August! But being local means you can go on an unexpectedly sunny March weekend.
    • esseph 1 hour ago
      > For example, despite living most of my life in London, I've never been to the Tower of London. Why would I?

      Why wouldn't you?

      Note: It's great, you should go.

  • codingdave 22 minutes ago
    I live in a tourist town. 3000 residents, 4 million visitors each year. And I'm just fine with the tourists not going to the places I go - we tend to like the quieter, more affordable places vs. the big fancy price-gouging places. But assuming that us "locals" just sit at home and do nothing is such an unfair and inaccurate assessment. Why would I want to live in a town as crazy as this if I did nothing here?

    I enjoy having a vast variety of restaurants and activities that I otherwise would not have in a small town in the Midwest. The roads are well maintained, we have more parks than we otherwise would, there are trails, rivers, and tons of activities. We don't spend all our time partaking of the tourist activities, but we abso-freaking-lutely spend some time enjoying what the town has to offer.

  • lorecore 1 hour ago
    The locals are living their lives on an organic cadence. They're not maximizing entertainment value or whatever. They will certainly know entertaining things to do, but it's literally not their job to entertain tourists. Maybe seeking out a Disneyland like experience in someone else's home is the problem? Bourdain, Rick Steves, et al. are fun to watch, but I can't help but feel they've actually made the world a worse place by romanticizing tourism. There are many sayings about how travel reduces prejudice... but if you actually look at it at scale, it's almost always a global negative.
  • mig39 13 minutes ago
    I spend summers in Central Portugal after enduring the winter of Canada's North. Sometimes my Canadian friends want to spend a couple of days in Portugal and ask me what's for a good place to visit, or a good attraction to go to, etc. I always answer the same:

    I have no idea. I don't go as a tourist. I go to live in my family's home town for 6 or 7 weeks and not think about work. I don't have any recommendations for a checklist. I avoid the touristy places if I can.

    I then turn it around on them. If someone was visiting Canada for 2 or 3 days, where do you tell them to go? I dunno.

  • LastTrain 30 minutes ago
    A less grumpy corollary: do the things in your town that you only do when you have visitors.
  • ValentineC 40 minutes ago
    > I’m skeptical of the term tourist trap (it’s mostly used as a term to place yourself as higher status/taste than other people, and is often used out of insecurity)

    One thing I've read years ago about tourist traps is that one shouldn't be actively trying to avoid them, especially if they come from a country with higher purchasing power.

    Some of these "tourist trap" activities are locals trying to make an honest living doing what they can. It should be fine to take a tuk tuk, or to buy paintings and souvenirs from people off the street.

    Everyone should avoid getting ripped off, but what's 0.1% of a month's wages to a tourist could pay for an entire day's meals for a local.

    • apelapan 13 minutes ago
      I don't think people should get ripped off just because they can afford it.

      If you visit Sweden, don't buy ice cream in the historic area of Stockholm ("gamla stan").

      As an American you might think "$10 for a single scoop of vanilla, that's nothing. A minimum wage worker packing groceries earn twice that in an hour back home". But you are not helping a starving ice cream labourer with your purchase, you are simply being taken for a ride. Walk a couple of blocks more and check the signs, and you can buy it at half price from a respectable establishment instead. Most likely the ice cream will be better at the next place as well.

  • ixxie 1 hour ago
    Do what you would do at home on a week off.
    • tptacek 45 minutes ago
      Chill out on my porch, read a book, make a salad? I don't think that's what the post is getting at.
      • myself248 5 minutes ago
        That's what I did on my last vacation, and it was lovely.

        Except that I was in a cabin, on an island, in a foreign country. And the reason I was absolutely undistracted from my book, is that I'd turned my phone off before crossing the border. And I left it off, all week.

        The isolation and quiet surroundings made the "week off" truly off. Nobody could reach me if they tried. Whatever calamity befell my boss, he'd just have to wait.

        That's so much better than I'd normally do at home on a week off, and it was 100% worth the travel to achieve it.

    • wavemode 57 minutes ago
      But I could just do that at home. Why travel?
      • apsurd 46 minutes ago
        This is part of the wider conversation. At least one reason is because other peoples' home is not your Disneyland.
  • wavemode 42 minutes ago
    The phrase "do what the locals do" is very vague. Like, think about your own life - the "local" places that you go to hang out, drink, eat, have fun etc. differ very much depending on:

    - your means of transportation

    - how wealthy you are

    - who you're with

    - whether it's a special occasion or just a random Tuesday

  • grebc 14 minutes ago
    They know more than the author that’s for sure.
  • comrade1234 1 hour ago
    I'd take you mushroom hunting (but really just exploring and running around in the forest this time of year), maybe pick up a trout on the way home to grill. That's a few days a week for me (the trout leas though).

    As for touristy things here in Zurich - it's not really a tourist city. When we have guests from overseas we do have a set of activities to bring them on. When I've offered to bring them in the forest to find mushrooms/berries/etc they're usually not so interested.

    • _puk 50 minutes ago
      In a lot of places the best mushroom spots are guarded secrets.
  • apsurd 41 minutes ago
    What is this post. The point is normal people do normal things in their normal lives.

    I regret reading and commenting, but hopefully save someone else.

  • damnitbuilds 3 hours ago
    Title: "The Locals Don't Know"

    First line: "My best piece of travel advice is to avoid doing what the locals do."

    The writer seems incapable of distinguishing between the special, cool local things the locals KNOW about, and which a tourist might well benefit from trying, and the things locals DO because they don't do those special, cool things every day. Instead locals are usually doing similar things to what we normally do.

    Which renders this article rather pointless.

    • necrobrit 1 hour ago
      Speaking as someone from Edinburgh where the locals are notoriously jaded (ask someone that has lived in edi for a few years what festival shows they went to this year): It's more that we _forget_ rather than never knowing.

      Asks me what cool things to do nearby on the spot and I'll probably draw a blank. But say what you are doing instead and I'll probably go "oh yeah! That's brilliant! I love thing X".

      I do know where good dog walking spots just outside Edinburgh are though, and I'm still regularly discovering more because I'm effectively a tourist ;).

    • saltcured 26 minutes ago
      I don't even know if I accept the premise.

      When I was an expat, there was a subtle kind of experience in settling into buying groceries and getting haircuts from the local providers. Or shopping for furniture for our own apartment, or hiring someone to do remodeling on a house...

      But, I'm the type who also finds enjoyment in the same scenic trails and camping areas visited hundreds of times in my life in different seasons, etc. I don't need to try to see everything once in a superficial, whirlwind of a tour...

    • mft_ 47 minutes ago
      Further, he specifically mentioned Bordain, who focussed predominantly on food, and I think the concept of doing what the locals do is hugely rooted in choosing a restaurant. As in: locals won't eat in overpriced tourist traps, and will have had the chance to try enough local spots to know where's good. So if you want to choose a (e.g.) Chinese restaurant, choose one with lots of Chinese people in. (This applies whether you're in China or elsewhere.)
      • renox 16 minutes ago
        Well, it dépends: there are a lot of places where the locals goes because they are cheap not because they are good.

        But yes, ask the locals.

    • brentcrude 1 hour ago
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