12 comments

  • 51Cards 1 hour ago
    I always love this video, and I have been a lifetime dedicated fan of James Burke, but few seem to note that the whole segment didn't have to be timed as there is a cut shortly before the launch. If I recall either James or one of the producers talked about it once. They knew they had to start the last bit 13 seconds before launch and had practiced it repeatedly. At 13 seconds to countdown James nailed it. I'm sure even after practicing it I would have stumbled over a word in the clutch moment!
    • Polizeiposaune 52 minutes ago
      It would appear that this was the Titan IIIE which launched Voyager 2. They would have had another chance to get the shot about two weeks later when Voyager 1 launched. (Due to quirks of interplanetary orbital mechanics, Voyager 1 got to Jupiter several months before Voyager 2 despite launching second).

      The IIIE did indeed have a Centaur stage with a "thermos" full of liquid hydrogen and another with liquid oxygen, but that's not what we see in this clip -- the pillars of fire and smoke come from a pair of solid-fuel boosters that burn for about two minutes, followed by about six more minutes of flight powered by two more stages burning non-cryogenic liquid propellants (hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide) before the Centaur was ignited.

      • adastra22 7 minutes ago
        For those wondering, it's actually quite common that two spacecraft launched that way (if two spacecraft are launched, which is not common) would arrive out of order. The reason is that you can think of a "launch window" as really a specific ideal launch time, but a little earlier or later will also work, although being early or later would result in arriving at the destination later. They aim to launch the first spacecraft right at the opening of the window, so if there is any delay they won't run out of time. If it launches "on time", then it actually launched early for the launch window, and takes longer to get there. The second launch right after then launches closer to the actual ideal launch date.
    • rmunn 1 hour ago
      Cuts from the speaker to some background footage, then back to the speaker, are a very useful technique. They can be used to lie, too, of course (cut from the interviewee's face to the interviewer, then back to the interviewee, and you can cut out context that changes the meaning of what was said). But when used with no deception in mind, they can really enhance a powerful moment. And this was a perfect example of it: no deception at all, just a wonderful visual image that makes an impact on the viewer.
  • RachelF 2 hours ago
    The late 1970's were the golden age of documentaries: Connections, Cosmos, Civilization, The Ascent of Man and Attenborough's Life on Earth.

    Perhaps it's just me, but modern documentaries are rather dumbed down?

    As a side note: Quite ironic that he ends up pointing to a rocket propelled mostly by solid fuels.

    • seer 1 hour ago
      Yes, but the YouTube ed channels are such a treasure in and of itself. We had the “tech” to produce content like this for almost a century, but it took the Internet and democratization of content creation to come up with gems like smarter every day, veritasium, extra history, etc

      My fear is that this is also being reshaped with ai, mostly for good now but I feel like the personal touch and passion of these creators is being diluted with the advent of generated content.

      Maybe we are in a valley of the uncanny valley and the ai tools will become so good that they can successfully translate someone’s passionate vision faithfully, then it could be another renaissance.

    • tocs3 1 hour ago
      I also feel most of the documentaries are awful these days. There are a feww that are pretty good but I miss the older stuff.
    • magicalhippo 1 hour ago
      > Perhaps it's just me, but modern documentaries are rather dumbed down?

      It's not just you. Most modern TV documentaries, especially series, are dumbed down and sped up. Fast cuts, lots of woo, not too much to challenge your brain, don't want it to get strained.

      Gone are the days where someone conveyed the information calmly while not driving a car somewhere irrelevant. No more lingering shots allowing you to process what you just saw and heard.

      • AIorNot 37 minutes ago
        Thats because we have a trove of in depth specialist and deep youtube content including all those old documentaries to mine through these days

        Youtube and the internet is a goldmine and way bigger than old 80s/90s content, im over 50 and remember the 80s well enough.. a few great well produced documentaries are not a comparable to gigabytes or petabytes of videos and podcasts we have today

        The cultural format of exchange has changed and the consequences of that - so called tiktok attention deficit folks means perhaps no one watches this content but I think that too is a generalization and great content is watched probably by a greater proportion of smart curious people today than back in the 80s on your phone nonetheless- we have a pocket tv with an almost unlimited amount of content

        Im an information junkie and just today I spent 3 hours watching a documentary series on the incan civilization follower by a Stanford video on LLMs and then watching Blaise Arcas’s interesting ideas on computational life and intelligence

        https://youtu.be/KhSJuqDUJME?si=-TMkLdapsbcWuoft

    • burnt-resistor 1 hour ago
      It was the golden age of the US at least also. Times that belittle, defund, or destroy science or art are dark ages.
  • devindotcom 2 hours ago
    The full series is on Archive:

    https://archive.org/details/bbc-connections-1978/Connections...

    It still holds up for the most part, though of course some of the takes, being almost 50 years old, may seem a bit quaint. It's certainly worth watching the first series at least start to finish. Burke is an interesting guy.

    • mandevil 1 hour ago
      I personally feel like _The Day The Universe Changed_ (his second documentary) is better. I love Connections but the basic thesis (there are hidden connections between disparate developments in science and technology) ends up pretty scattershot, spreading out like Brownian Motion. _tDtUC_ is much more focused. Largely based on Kuhn's _Structure of Scientific Revolutions_ for individual stories, it traces how the understanding of time in Europe changed from the middle ages to the 1980's- the idea of time as a marker of descent from a previous golden age (1), or at best a repeating cycle, evolves into our modern conception of time as endlessly improving into a better future. And the supporting book was amazing too.

      I also want to speak up for the BBC history documentary team that worked with Michael Wood: _In Search of the Trojan War_, _In Search of the Dark Ages_, _The Story of England_, _The Story of India_ they were also a staple of American PBS and informed my understanding of the world.

      1: My go to example for this is imagine you walk into the Pantheon in 1000 AD: no one on your entire continent has known how to build a dome like that in 500 years, and won't again for another 500 years. The fundamental way you understand the world has to be completely different from the "newer is better" baseline that we have understood the world by for the past 150 years.

      • ThrowawayR2 12 minutes ago
        > "I love Connections but the basic thesis (there are hidden connections between disparate developments in science and technology)..."

        The basic thesis of Connections 1 was that humanity has become fatally dependent on technology (the "technology trap"), that dependence continues getting deeper and deeper, and it's hard to predict what technologies will emerge or where technology will take us, possibly utopia but just as likely a living hell. Re-watch just the first and last episodes and they will terrify you.

        Connections 2 and 3 were indeed scattershot because people liked Burke's charming mannerisms and didn't want to think about the ever more complex and ever more fragile panoply of technologies that individuals, even the technologists themselves, can neither understand nor control is all that stands between humanity and its extinction.

    • m463 29 minutes ago
      Thanks for the link.

      This clip is Season 1 Episode 8 "Eat Drink and Be Merry" and the shot starts at 48:17:

      https://archive.org/download/bbc-connections-1978/Connection...

    • _JamesA_ 2 hours ago
      I was so lucky to be able to grow up watching quality shows like this. Thank you PBS (and BBC).
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  • chongli 1 hour ago
    I watched this show religiously as a kid (by then in reruns in the early 90s), along with Star Trek: TNG, Jeopardy, and playing Civilization for PC. The most formative years of my life were spent absorbing as much science, technology, and history as my growing brain could muster. I think that's why I'd grown up to be so optimistic about the future.

    I think there's still a lot of room for optimism, despite all of the pessimism in the media, and I'm not even talking about AI. There are a ton of other things which have benefitted enormously from ubiquitous, efficient, and powerful computing that hardly get talked about anymore, we've come to take it all for granted.

    • wagwang 1 hour ago
      The last line of the video was talking about nuking others...
      • chaboud 1 hour ago
        Could have just been intercontinental ballistic human transport... I can't tell you how many times I've wished to just be fired out of a cannon to Hong Kong from SF.
        • bandrami 1 hour ago
          He's even clearer about it in the last episode of season 1, where he assembles all the inventions from the season and shows how they make the US nuclear triad.
  • DavidWoof 1 hour ago
    I loved Connections so much as a kid, but I'm so tired of this clip. There's so many better clips from this show.

    So he nailed a 13 second countdown. Who cares? Newscasters do this at every commercial break. Sports announcers do this without a script and they still nail the cut to commercial almost every time. Yes, there's a talent to timing your speech to a countdown in your ear, but it's a talent that people do thousands of times a day around the world on far less preparation than Burke had here.

    The fact that this article calls a simple cut a "sleight of hand" just terrifies me. Does the public really not know what editing is?

  • fracus 27 minutes ago
    Wow, I've only known the Carl Sagan shot in Cosmos. I'm happy to know the original now.
  • slipheen 56 minutes ago
    If you haven't seen it, there was a new season of connections made in 2023 as well.

    https://www.space.com/connections-with-james-burke-docuserie...

  • momo26 11 minutes ago
    really miss the time when the documentaries take the audience as audience.
  • tocs3 1 hour ago
    I grew up watching Cosmos and Connections (and a bunch of stupid prime time on the one TV in the house and something like 5 clear channel [PBS being the best]).
  • madaxe_again 34 minutes ago
    Fake. They filmed a rocket landing and he spoke backwards as soon as it touched down.
  • aaron695 1 hour ago
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