Project Gutenberg – keeps getting better

(gutenberg.org)

139 points | by JSeiko 1 hour ago

11 comments

  • JSeiko 1 hour ago
    Hi! I'm one of the programmers at Gutenberg. We've been improving the site a lot over the past few months (and more is coming!). If you haven't visited the page recently, it's worth checking out again: https://www.gutenberg.org/
    • ExtremisAndy 24 minutes ago
      Oh, my! This does look nice. Thank you for your hard work!
      • JSeiko 20 minutes ago
        Thanks! We're currently working on a design update of the page of any specific book. Should be online soon (next 1-2 weeks or so)
    • xrd 31 minutes ago
      Thank you for your work. This site is an international treasure.
    • smallnix 16 minutes ago
      There's a minor bug with chrome in android where the menu will not close when you tap outside the menu or on the menu link/button
      • JSeiko 8 minutes ago
        will open an "Issue" for it
    • shuvrojit 17 minutes ago
      Great Work. Thank you. I'm also a programmer. If you are ever short on help, let me know. I would love to contribute.
    • excitednumber 21 minutes ago
      Thank you for being one of the best places on the internet
    • Falimonda 53 minutes ago
      The book list elements on front page render as both horizontally and vertically scrollable divs on mobile - seems like an opportunity for improvement.

      Keep up the good work!

      • JSeiko 47 minutes ago
        good feedback thanks! Doing an iteration on the homepage design is actually pretty high on the priority list. will keep your feedback in mind!
    • samcollins 49 minutes ago
      Very cool! Do you have a recommended way for an agent to see an index of the books and epub links?

      (I can’t quite tell if that’s an egregious abuse of the site or you’re perfectly fine to share without human eye balls hitting your www?)

      • samcollins 10 minutes ago
        Thanks for the answers! Found it:

        > All Project Gutenberg metadata are available digitally in the XML/RDF format. This is updated daily (other than the legacy format mentioned below). Please use one of these files as input to a database or other tools you may be developing, instead of crawling or roboting the website.

        And strongly consider a donation! (My addition)

        https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/offline_catalogs.html#the-p...

      • jzs 40 minutes ago
        Now i'm not associated with gutenberg in any form, but they do have a page for offline consumption:

        https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/offline_catalogs.html

        Perhaps you can find the information you are looking for there.

        However if you plan on scraping or otherwise hitting them with a ton of traffic, consider at least to donate a good amount for the traffic you cause them. It ain't free after all.

        • JSeiko 38 minutes ago
          Donations are always appreciated ;)
      • kay_o 45 minutes ago
        Check out https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/offline_catalogs.html

        Don't hit the site with agent. The section furtherst bottom machine readable.

      • JSeiko 45 minutes ago
        not yet, but that's not a bad idea imo. Dealing with Ai crawler traffic is definitely a challenge if that's what you were referring to.
      • ancientcatz 41 minutes ago
        OPDS?
      • e0d075b569cd 45 minutes ago
        brother ... are we really THAT stupid now?
  • throw0101c 39 minutes ago
    While PG has probably gotten a lot of use and growth with the growth/maintreaming of the Internet since the 1990s, (TIL) it started back in 1971:

    > Michael S. Hart began Project Gutenberg in 1971 with the digitization of the United States Declaration of Independence.[5] Hart, a student at the University of Illinois, obtained access to a Xerox Sigma V mainframe computer in the university's Materials Research Lab. […] This computer was one of the 15 nodes on ARPANET, the computer network that would become the Internet. Hart believed one day the general public would be able to access computers and decided to make works of literature available in electronic form for free. […]

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Gutenberg

  • Someone1234 31 minutes ago
    I'm surprised no eBook Reader vendor has a Project Gutenberg "Store." Where you can just browse Gutenberg, find a book, and just grab it down to the reader. Instead, they either are actively hostile (Kindle), or require the use of Calibre (which itself is good, it is just the friction).
    • horsawlarway 22 minutes ago
      I've used https://standardebooks.org/ to pull nicely formatted Project Gutenberg books on any e-reader that supports a browser (in my case, Boox).

      Technically, I can also just directly pull the epub from Project Gutenberg, but sometimes the formatting leaves a lot to be desired.

      Once you get an e-reader that runs a semi-capable OS (ex - stock android, even an older version), it's hard to go back to something like a kindle.

      • JSeiko 16 minutes ago
        standardebooks.org is great!
    • JSeiko 28 minutes ago
      I've heard that the newest Kobo e-readers have a browser that you could use to go to gutenberg.org and directly download files.

      but yes, generally I agree with your point. Library of 75k books seems pretty valuable to have direct access to.

    • GaryBluto 26 minutes ago
      Most of them offer their own paid storefronts and have a perverse incentive not to offer a large area full of free books.
      • JSeiko 17 minutes ago
        probably true. Maybe an true open-source eReader should exist.
    • cstever 4 minutes ago
      No money for them.
  • JKCalhoun 17 minutes ago
    Project Gutenberg had (has?) a tendency toward plaintext that always put me off. (And it has been over a decade I'm sure since I explored the site—so I am no doubt now misinformed.)

    I like a styled formatted book—would prefer PDFs. (I know, not a popular format apparently.)

    I like the idea of Project Gutenberg but guess I found book scans on archive.org my preference.

    My go-to example is Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking Glass" with the fantastic art of John Tenniel and Carroll's sometimes creative formatting of the prose…

    I see they (Project Gutenberg) have ePub now, which can be good if well done.

    (If not well done it can be a kind of mess. Re-flowable "HTML", paginated… Anyone ever try to print a long web page and did you enjoy the result? Perhaps that is as much on the ePub reader though.)

    • RattlesnakeJake 15 minutes ago
      Check out Standard eBooks. They take the text from Gutenberg and add a level of polish to the ePubs.
    • JLO64 14 minutes ago
      As others here have mentioned, https://standardebooks.org/ is excellent and my understanding is that they use Gutenberg books as a source for theirs but done up much nicer.
    • JSeiko 11 minutes ago
      We're supporting EPUB3 for the vast majority of books! At the same time we also have a "Plain Text" version for each as in a sense it's the most robust. PdFs are in the works!
    • the_af 0 minutes ago
      I like plain text. You can always post process it into any other format you prefer.
    • graemep 15 minutes ago
      I have got quite a few books over the years from Gutenberg, and the epubs have been fine 0 even of illustrated ones.
    • jiffygist 12 minutes ago
      I on the other hand prefer epubs for fiction. I mostly read on the phone.
  • RattlesnakeJake 16 minutes ago
    As a Kindle user, I still miss the old version of the site. The new one looks great on normal desktop, but the old one was simple enough to load and directly download books on the device's built-in browser.
    • JSeiko 14 minutes ago
      That's interesting. What about the new design prevents you from doing it? Genuinely asking here. We may fix it if it's actionable
    • graemep 13 minutes ago
      Is that a Kindle issue?

      You can download books in most browsers. I know Amazon have done things to make life difficult for other stores in the past.

  • seizethecheese 40 minutes ago
    A big pet peeve of mine with Project Gutenberg was the lack of mobile styling. Looks like it’s been fixed! Awesome.
    • JSeiko 37 minutes ago
      good to hear - that was a lot of work!
  • mowmiatlas 34 minutes ago
    Made an app that allows reading PG books as audiobooks on iPhone https://loudreader.io/
    • JSeiko 33 minutes ago
      that's cool!
  • aronhegedus 23 minutes ago
    Recently downloaded Moby Dick from here:) very easy to use
  • taubek 59 minutes ago
    Thank you for reminding me about this project. Didn’t visit it in a long time.
  • solarity_studio 37 minutes ago
    Awesome
  • brcmthrowaway 25 minutes ago
    I can't read anymore due to fear of not being productive with AI