Bot vs human traffic

(radar.cloudflare.com)

87 points | by jmsflknr 1 hour ago

18 comments

  • jawns 26 minutes ago
    It's a silly metric. There could be only one master bot that pings every known endpoint multiple times a second, and that would probably surpass all human activity, too. It doesn't really tell us much about intention or the ability to masquerade as humans.

    Where I would start to worry is if there's evidence that bot access patterns are starting to become harder to distinguish from human access patterns, which would suggest that they are, in fact, mimicking or masquerading as humans. I don't care how many search bots are indexing web content, but I do worry about how many social bots are attempting to manipulate or mislead people.

    • 01284a7e 10 minutes ago
      Thales Bad Bot Report categorizes the traffic between "good" and "bad" bots.

      I would add that AI dramatically blurs the line between legitimate and malicious, and the intent generally speaking.

      In regards to social bots, there's a 2024 study of over 1 million accounts on X and over 60% were found likely to be bots. Curiously, when Musk took over Twitter, the "Blue Checkmark" became something that can be bought for several bucks a month (with crypto, even), without any sort of verification.

    • al_borland 20 minutes ago
      Looking at the verified bots section, all the top bots are web crawlers, which have been around for decades, to your point.
    • RobRivera 9 minutes ago
      >but I do worry about how many social bots are attempting to manipulate or mislead people.

      You should browse reddit sometime. The easy ones to spot just autocreate accounts using the autoname at signup, which is of the formfactor [word1][word2]/d{4}

      Regex nazis please spare me, I am doing my bestest

    • axegon_ 14 minutes ago
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  • ryanschaefer 41 minutes ago
    “First time”

    The graph seems like it only goes back to April 27 and on that day it was 57% bot…

    • embedding-shape 31 minutes ago
      Maybe "first time on a weekday"? Asit seems it's been above 60% every weekend since they started monitoring it.
    • sheepscreek 32 minutes ago
      I think it’s meant as “for the first time in history..”. Not today in particular, but as a milestone.
  • 01284a7e 31 minutes ago
    According to the Thales Bad Bot Report, in 2025 >53% of traffic came from bots. 2024 was 50 - 50, and in 2013, it was measured at 43%.

    AI-driven* bot activity has increased more than tenfold however in the past 12 months so I'm confident this will grow to a very solid majority.

    • pixelesque 24 minutes ago
      > and in 2013, it was measured at 43%.

      Do you mean 2013 or 2023?

      • 01284a7e 21 minutes ago
        I mean, just for a reference point, 2013. 2013 was the first year they did the report.
  • asdff 41 minutes ago
    For the first time? No way. People were saying this 5, 10, 15+ years ago.
  • tushar-r 25 minutes ago
    I was tracking this as part of an older job and this has been the case for some years now - started around the Covid time with all the scalping bots etc and has just been building up.

    This sorta mirrors the early-mid 2010's when people[1] were worried about how much of the internet was streaming traffic.

    [1] Mostly ISP's annoyed at not being able to monetize it and folks trying to sell monetization solutions to them - https://www.sandvine.com/hubfs/Sandvine_Redesign_2019/Downlo...

  • giancarlostoro 14 minutes ago
    Would love to see it go further back and some meaningful metric of how much is web scrapers vs bots.
  • Shank 40 minutes ago
    Automated systems that don’t sleep and are often programmed to aggressively scrape and are limited only by compute capacity outstripped humanity? I am not surprised by this at all.
    • Waterluvian 35 minutes ago
      We're the "retail users" of the Web.
  • dietr1ch 11 minutes ago
    Not shocking if CF is now trying really hard to keep me out of the internet
  • conductr 26 minutes ago
    Any thoughts on why ~30% of HTTP request are in US? I know we had first mover advantage for awhile but I'd expect this to have been diluted by larger populations by now. It doesn't appear to be AI/bot driven either.
    • arbol 3 minutes ago
      Is it not just a case of most of their clients being US based?
    • yacin 18 minutes ago
      my first guess would be a decent chunk of things bot operators want to scrape are in the US. might as well have your bot nearer to the source.
  • InfiniteVortex 43 minutes ago
    Dead internet theory
    • tonymet 25 minutes ago
      what comes after death? more like dead -> dead -> dead internet
      • nocman 21 minutes ago
        It's been mostly dead all morning.
  • 0x59 13 minutes ago
    CF posts metrics which reinforces their business... shocking
    • Symbiote 6 minutes ago
      It's not Cloudflare's title, the submitted invented it.
  • vaylian 44 minutes ago
    Given how many rounds of captchas I have to fight through, I'm not sure if these numbers are accurate.
    • asdff 25 minutes ago
      Funny how I get captcha looped with my adblocking in firefox but you can just get through easily with a few puppeteer plugins controlling headless chrome.
    • elaus 41 minutes ago
      You have to fight, for some bots it might not be a real fight anymore...
    • dawnerd 23 minutes ago
      Trivial to bypass though, the big players just haven't gone that far yet.
    • layer8 30 minutes ago
      Captchas are part of the traffic. ;)
  • layer8 31 minutes ago
    Only for HTML content. Total traffic would have been surprising.
  • giancarlostoro 42 minutes ago
    Given how most of the internet is on mobile, I wonder how much that would skew this.
  • EarlKing 39 minutes ago
    If they were truly this accurate at identifying sources of bot traffic, you'd think they'd be better at blocking them without inconveniencing the rest of us.
  • tonymet 26 minutes ago
    OP: please add [2012] to the title
  • vinyl7 18 minutes ago
    I'm looking forward to the fraud lawsuites from ad companies
  • deafpolygon 34 minutes ago
    Dead internet theory gaining more credibility with every passing day.