Judge a book by its first pages

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43 points | by bookofjoe 4 hours ago

13 comments

  • imglorp 3 hours ago
    Kurt Vonnegut advocated for writers to throw away the first chapter of their book. He liked to drop the reader into the thick of it immediately.
    • the__alchemist 3 hours ago
      It's first chapters all the way down!
    • TeeMassive 3 hours ago
      Seriously.

      Why would "A blue Ford just parked in front of the door. Jim still hasn't truly fully woken up but he was already making breakfast..." incite me to read the book?

      Compare that to The Poppy War which I just discovered:

      "Take your clothes off. Rin blinked. What? Cheating prevention protocol."

  • stephen_cagle 1 hour ago
    Ignoring whether this is a good business, I feel like this is a pretty terrible way to judge a book. If it took off it would result in everyone just starting their book with a real hook, which only works for a small number of genres and only if nothing else needs to be setup before "hooking" (simple "nothing is unfamiliar" stories).

    I've read plenty of books on recommendation that I think are great, but they were not the kind of books that could start with a hook I think.

    But, the counterargument to this is if it helps people start books, then who cares if it is an effective strategy or not.

    • spankibalt 1 hour ago
      > But, the counterargument to this is if it helps people start books, [...].

      It certainly doesn't. Not that it matters to people who love reading books, for they know judging a whole book by its first page(s), or based on some formula extracted from one of those silly self-improvement tomes, is just ridiculous (especially the latter reminiscent of "Pritchard's graph" from Dead Poets Society).

    • andrewflnr 1 hour ago
      Still better than judging by the cover. Also, it is important to know that there aren't any deal breakers in the author's style.
  • aarvin_roshin 3 hours ago
    Unrelated to the idea, but this website strangely blocks `Alt+←` and `Alt+→` to cycle through browser history.

    Edit: It seems the website overrides the `←` and `→` arrow keys specifically, and using `event.preventDefault()` causes the problem. I think it's good practice to ignore keys with modifiers in such a situation.

    • embedding-shape 3 hours ago
      It's not "blocked", the person implementing it just forgo any sort of browser history usage when creating the website/"app", and the entire thing is controlled 100% in their own JS code. I guess author only had their specific mobile use in mind when creating it? Maybe swiping for back/forward works if you view it on the phone?
  • EagleEdge 3 hours ago
    I always follow the rule in the book "How to Read a Book": give the book a superficial reading to decide if it is worth reading deeply and carefully.
    • BeetleB 2 hours ago
      Would not recommend for fiction - at least not mass market fiction. But Mortimer probably felt those were not reading, and the method would work for him :-)

      When I read How To Read a Book, I was quite impressed. In practice ... it's not very useful for the types of book I read. Likely better for deeper, philosophical books (including fiction of that category).

      For a lot of fiction books, my rule is to read the first 50 pages. If I'm not engaged, move on. Life is short. I believe Stephen King also used that heuristic. It's fine if you miss out on some great books. You're not going to get to read all of them anyway.

      • GarnetFloride 2 hours ago
        I use Mortimer's system for non-fiction works, which is where it makes the most sense.

        I would also use it if I was doing a really deep dive in a fiction work.

        For most fiction that I am reading for entertainment, the first 50ish pages will tell me if its worth finishing.

    • aeon_ai 3 hours ago
      Can’t recommend the book enough, taught me a lot of tricks
      • EagleEdge 2 hours ago
        Yes. It fundamentally changed how I read a book. I go back to it every once a while and always find new things to apply every time.
  • needSomeCoffee 3 hours ago
    Clicked the link. Selected "Literary". First sample was quite good. Vaguely caught the name of the author. Closed page. Then decided to go back. Could not find the first sample which I decided I might want to read. Got just enough of the author name to get Google to find "Colson Whitehead" when I entered "Colston". The book was "Cool Machine". Went to borrow it from Sno-Isle.org. Placed a hold on the physical book. Number 51 in the hold line (all time record for my holds -- got plenty to read until its likely availability). Glad I found this site, but on my second visit did not find any "Literary" first pages that resonated. Blind luck. Good site idea though. HTH, NSC
  • happytoexplain 3 hours ago
    When I visit a bookstore, I will look for things I recognize/want. But I also will open random books and read the first page to see if anything hooks me. I try to come away from any bookstore visit with one book I've never heard of and may have never been recommended otherwise. This is a nice recreation of that experience (sans the paper smell).
    • stuxf 2 hours ago
      exactly my thoughts too, this is a great way to digitally recreate the bookstore experience :)
  • sva_ 3 hours ago
    I don't know, I think some books like for example Frank Herbert's need a couple more pages to set up the scene.

    Also, some of the best tv shows I watched need a couple episodes build up to get a nice payout.

    • BeetleB 2 hours ago
      I don't think the site is claiming otherwise.

      And as for Frank Herbert's Dune, I gave it a try. I read the first two books, and was 20% of my way through the third when I realized that "No, this whole story is not going to get good ever."

      Should have just stopped after a few pages of the first book :-)

      • andrewflnr 1 hour ago
        Ha, I love Dune personally, but it definitely doesn't get better after that.
      • sva_ 2 hours ago
        It's a good thing that people have different preferences
  • grimgrin 4 hours ago
    maybe it is mostly books, but the first one it served me was a /r/aita post

    https://uncovered.ink/?b=9781538704448

    • happytoexplain 3 hours ago
      Yeah, same for me. I was confused.

      But click "Reveal". This is in fact a book.

    • kiddico 3 hours ago
      I believe that's a fiction/in universe reddit post
    • aarvin_roshin 3 hours ago
      The button on the homepage is hardcoded to this book, which I find extremely strange. Why not choose a random book, and why pick such a confusing quote?
  • scotty79 3 hours ago
    I think the reveal button is counted as an upvote for the book because it supposedly discovered my taste and it was based on th books I revealed, but not bookmarked.
    • happytoexplain 1 hour ago
      That makes sense. "I read some and wanted to read more" is a useful metric like an upvote (it doesn't have to mean "I know I like this" to be useful).
    • ndarray 2 hours ago
      If that is true, it's bad design. The site definitely needs a dislike button too, while we're at it...
  • rao-v 4 hours ago
    The world needs more delightful websites that do one clever thing well like this. Turns out I need to read Percival Everett!
  • lofaszvanitt 2 hours ago
    If the book is boring after the 40th page then it's not for you.
  • spankibalt 2 hours ago
    Another day, another rotten candy apple for giggling postliterates.
  • ndarray 2 hours ago
    This is basically an ad for recent books the maker likes or gets paid to promote and the selection is hot garbage