GNU Hurd News 2026-Q2

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55 points | by plaguna 3 days ago

8 comments

  • inigyou 52 minutes ago
    Cool to finally see some small silly tech stuff here that isn't trying to make money.
  • jnpnj 1 hour ago
    It seems Samuel Thibault is still there, sweet.

    ps: some slides from earlier this year https://fosdem.org/2026/events/attachments/7FZXHF-updates_on...

    full vid here https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/7FZXHF-updates_on_gnu...

  • csb6 52 minutes ago
    Does anyone more familiar with Hurd know how they addressed performance issues encountered by other Mach-based kernels? I remember reading that one of Mach's bottlenecks was validating that each IPC message had proper permissions/access when sending them between processes due to the large number and frequency of messages.
    • floxy 23 minutes ago
      Is that a bottleneck anymore? Maybe something that was appreciable in 1994 isn't a big performance hit in 2026?
      • Analemma_ 10 minutes ago
        Isn't it even worse now? The faster computers get, the more that software-induced bottlenecks hurt.
  • sirsinsalot 1 hour ago
    I hope Hurd has its day. Maybe in 100 years or something.
    • this_user 46 minutes ago
      Instead of rewriting Bun, maybe Anthropic should have thrown some tokens at finishing Hurd.
      • officeplant 19 minutes ago
        We'd have to name it Turd then.
    • achyudh 12 minutes ago
      Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1508/
    • EarlKing 51 minutes ago
      Fun fact: Duke Nukem Forever shipped before GNU Hurd.
    • lynx97 1 hour ago
      Hurd will have its day once Linux makes it on the desktop :-)
      • adrian_b 37 minutes ago
        While I upvoted this, as being true for the general population, for me Linux has made it on the desktop (and laptop) much more than 2 decades ago, around 2003, when the remaining problems that had forced me to use dual-booting with Windows had been solved (i.e. when it became possible in Linux to play movies, read DVDs and use TV tuners). When that happened, I wiped out Windows from my computers.

        If you have a pro to help you, already for a long time Linux has been fine on the desktop for anyone. My parents, over 80 years old, have used Linux on their PCs for many years, and they did not even know what "Linux" is. That was possible because I installed and configured for them the operating system and all the applications they needed for reading and writing documents, Internet browsing, e-mail, music listening and movie watching etc.

        Windows is easy only because it comes preinstalled. I have installed Windows at work on many kinds of computers and during installation I have encountered much more problems impossible to solve for a non-expert than when installing Linux.

      • pjmlp 1 hour ago
        Linux has made it to the desktop, packaged inside VMs served by Apple, Microsoft and Google.
        • metalliqaz 1 hour ago
          That's not really what everyone means.

          However the recent success of gaming-related distros such as SteamOS and Bazzite seem to be succeeding where Usability-focused distros such as Mint, Pop!, and Zorin couldn't get deep traction

          • inigyou 49 minutes ago
            This should be a lesson about providing a product versus providing a technology.

            Ubuntu is "like Windows but not" which is mostly relevant to people boycotting Windows. Steam Deck is "a gamebox" which people who already like games might want to buy. Bazzite is "a thing that turns your computer into a game box."

          • pjmlp 39 minutes ago
            No, but that is what they will ever get from OEMs selling PCs at computer stores used by normies.

            Also lets not forget those distros play Windows games, because hardly any studio bothers with native Linux games.

            • nemomarx 23 minutes ago
              They play both, which is much better for adoption anyway? And it's contributed substantial improvements back to wine and other projects.
        • NoImmatureAdHom 1 hour ago
          It just...has made it. Plenty of power users just use it as their primary OS. I think official figures under-estimate it because many people daily-driving will spoof user agents of other OSes.

          And there's Android.

          • pjmlp 37 minutes ago
            Ah, Android, with a userspace based on Java, Kotlin, C and C++ standard libraries, Android native APIs, without anything related to GNU/Linux, unless it is a rooted device, or one gets to package a full Linux userspace as an APK, which isn't fully compatible due to security enforcement mechanisms.

            I would look into those statistics regarding desktop world wide adoption, distribution per OS.

            • jhbadger 30 minutes ago
              Anyone who wants it can have Termux which gives you a full Linux experience under Android with GNU tools if you want it, though.
              • pjmlp 27 minutes ago
                No it does not.

                It gives a Linux experience within the security sandbox from Android, which is why there are limitations when using it on regular devices, via PlayStore.

                Also it requires working around the NDK limitations on available POSIX APIs.

            • vkazanov 12 minutes ago
              Oh come on. :-)

              Linux is not userspace. Linux is a kernel, and android is a parallel fork of the kernel. So android is a version of linux but is not GNU/Linux.

              Android/Linux, if you will. We dont have to be shy this.

      • veqq 59 minutes ago
        Linux hit 10% desktop usage recently
    • shevy-java 57 minutes ago
      First there will be the Desktop Linux of the year breakthrough. Evil folks say it will coincide with the end of the world via a total global catastrophy but these people don't understand beauty - such as TempleOS, the most perfect OS of all times.
  • isityettime 1 hour ago
    > I plan to build bootable images and boot the kernel on Apple M1

    GuixSD with GNU Hurd would be a really fun way to repurpose an old MBP.

  • shevy-java 58 minutes ago
    Next year will be the year of GNU Hurd, as well as The Desktop Linux Year and people really using HaikuOS on real hardware for years. You read it here first!
  • p0w3n3d 1 hour ago
    Wow.