8 comments

  • JoshTriplett 19 minutes ago
    The net result of what this site is doing seems to result in one of two effects when I open the sidebar, randomly:

    1) the sidebar covers the content, while the content has blank space to the right, or

    2) the content moves off the right edge of the screen, leaving a large blank space to its left.

    Both of these are wrong. If I have a sidebar open, the site is now narrower, stop trying to be clever.

    My immediate reaction to this is why is the browser giving the site this information, and could we stop.

  • kccqzy 1 hour ago
    This might be some kind of a weird requirement for a piece of art, but I would literally never expect a website to center a div according to the browser window instead of the viewport. It just looks wrong and feels wrong.
    • seba_dos1 50 minutes ago
      Same. Thank heavens the website doesn't know the position of the browser's window in respect to the screen it's on.
      • krick 18 minutes ago
        Actually, they do, sort of. At least, if you use GLSL shaders. I remember some demo project using it in a way that made it appear that the website "sees" another window with the same website, which blew my mind when I saw it first. Cannot recall the name or anything else to locate it.
      • fluoridation 44 minutes ago
        Wait until they realize that on mobile they can use accelerometer data to keep the element in the same position in space across translations of the device.
        • jagged-chisel 36 minutes ago
          Wait, I have to hold my phone how in order to see the div? ಠ_ಠ
          • giancarlostoro 6 minutes ago
            The same way Steve Jobs said to hold the iPhone.
          • blamarvt 30 minutes ago
            I assume you have to be facing the server...
    • seg6 20 minutes ago
      The point of centering an element horizontally is to make sure that the content you’re viewing is directly in front of you. Browsers with a sidebar shift the content to the right, assuming the sidebar is on the left, which I’ve come to dislike! Others have expressed the same preference, hence this little snippet on my website.
      • stevage 7 minutes ago
        > The point of centering an element horizontally is to make sure that the content you’re viewing is directly in front of you.

        That's an awfully big assumption. For starters, you're assuming that the browser window itself is centered on the screen, and that the device is centered in front of the user.

        I don't think this is the point of centering an element horizontally at all, and the result you have created here is not at all what I as a user want.

      • nkrisc 5 minutes ago
        Joke’s on you: my browser window isn’t centered.
      • wizzwizz4 13 minutes ago
        As a rule, you should not add functionality to a website to compensate for browser misfeatures. People who want the browser to work differently can get a different browser: that's why we call them "user agents". Making the web all complicated like this mainly serves to make it harder for people to use alternative browsers, or for browsers to change their misfeatures without breaking compatibility.
  • krick 23 minutes ago
    Screenshots would be helpful, because (you may be surprised to learn that) it is not entirely obvious which mode of behavior is supposed to be "wrong".

    Anyway, I wouldn't say it currently behaves nicely (like something I would like to reuse anywhere whatsoever). Tested on Firefox opening Bookmarks on the left. First off, there is this ugly flicker, as browser first renders the "wrong" version, then your JS "fixes" it. Second, there is some concurrency problem, as by opening and closing Bookmarks repeatedly I somehow managed to render both versions: centered to viewport and covered by sidebar.

    And, yeah, as others have said, I also think that allowing sidebar to cover your webpage content is absolutely bogus and don't foresee myself wanting this behavior, ever. But that's up to you.

  • crtasm 45 minutes ago
    Meanwhile this website has learned how to break mouse scrolling.
  • fluoridation 41 minutes ago
    I had no idea what this was talking about at first because I had JS blocked, so nothing special seemed to happen when I opened the bookmarks panel. This looks absolutely goofy. I don't know why you'd want the content potentially getting covered by unrelated UI elements.
    • busymom0 32 minutes ago
      > This looks absolutely goofy. I don't know why you'd want the content potentially getting covered by unrelated UI elements.

      Here in Canada, the mobile website for anything related to Indian immigration (Indian passport, visa etc) is done via this absolutely goofy website with multiple levels of UI elements and popups covering the content. Have a look on mobile:

      https://www.blsindia-canada.com/ottawa-jurisdiction/index.ph...

  • skgough 51 minutes ago
    I think the scrollbar-gutter property helps with this. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/P...
  • jszymborski 1 hour ago
    margin:0 auto is the (probably incorrect) incantation I have always reached for
    • sodapopcan 59 minutes ago
      That's fine but it only centres horizontally. Usually when people talk about "the div centring" they mean x and y, dead centre (as this article is).
  • josefrichter 1 hour ago
    Centering a div? Impossible.