How we used to get jobs: A newspaper classifieds story

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47 points | by speckx 1 hour ago

9 comments

  • bluedino 3 minutes ago
    You'd mail your resume in (it was a 'hack' back then to hand-deliver it), then get a call in a couple days or weeks. Then someone who was home during the day (if you already had a job) would answer the phone and take the message from the HR person (or they'd leave one on your answering machine), you'd then have an appointment to go in or return a call to set one up...
  • subpixel 57 minutes ago
    Not only jobs, but NYC apartments - although in the Voice not the Times.
    • georgemcbay 49 minutes ago
      As someone who lived in NYC for a while circa 1999 the process at the time as I recall it was using a newspaper classified ad to find a broker to find an apartment.

      The vast majority of actual apartment listings were all gatekept within the broker system making hiring a broker (with an insane fee) effectively mandatory for actually finding a place to live in a reasonable timeframe.

      • geoduck14 28 minutes ago
        What about the obituary?
      • busterarm 25 minutes ago
        Brokers still gatekeep the best inventory in NYC for the most part.

        Every craigslist apartment I ever found was sketchy as hell.

        • pavel_lishin 15 minutes ago
          Every Craigslist apartment listing I've ever seen turned out to be through a broker as well.
  • rzzzt 1 hour ago
    Looking straight into the eyes, strong handshake, exuding confidence?
    • ricardonunez 50 minutes ago
      This but after going inside the building without authorization and saying you will not leave without a job.
      • II2II 13 minutes ago
        I encountered one corporation where you walked up to security, told them you were there to look for work, and they directed you to an office that contained posting of currently available positions. As far as I know, they didn't advertise job openings anywhere else. If you weren't willing to drop by their offices, they weren't interested in considering you.

        Of course, talking to anyone about a job within the building was an entirely different matter.

  • II2II 19 minutes ago
    Another tidbit, based upon finding out which company the phone number belonged to: you could go to the library and access business directories. Think the yellow pages, only they were geared towards businesses rather than towards consumers. Print versions were broken down by industry, but electronic ones (on CD-ROM) were searchable. It was also a tool for looking for unadvertised jobs, since those directories seemed to be geared towards making cold calls (albeit, for people doing sales).
  • tayo42 34 minutes ago
    Idk if it's true but it seems like life was simpler before the Internet took off.

    Now that guy is probably competing with tons of people more talented willing to work for less

    • Aurornis 11 minutes ago
      > Now that guy is probably competing with tons of people more talented willing to work for less

      This strikes at the core of it. Life was simpler for those in the know about how the world worked. If you were lucky enough to grow up with the right parents, friends, family members, and class mates to help guide you through how the world worked it was easy. You could count on less competition by knowing where to look, how to present yourself, and what to say. Someone very talented but stuck in a situation where they didn't know how to find these jobs and apply properly was hard. You would lose career advancement at every step of the way relative to peers who had a social network that fed them this information.

      If you're one of the people with more talent and hungry for work, life actually got simpler for you in modern times. The advantages of being well-connected and groomed by your parents for success are still there, but they're diminished when everyone can find advice on the internet.

      I grew up on the cusp of this change. It's hard to communicate just how hard it was to navigate even simple things like interview prep or even dressing correctly for interviews if you weren't surrounded by people who had up to date info.

      • II2II 1 minute ago
        > You could count on less competition by knowing where to look, how to present yourself, and what to say. Someone very talented but stuck in a situation where they didn't know how to find these jobs and apply properly was hard.

        I'm not sure that is any less true today. If you were looking for a job, people used to go to a job centre or look at the classifieds. Since everyone did it, those were also the jobs with the most competition. Swap job centre and classifieds for online job boards, and you have the situation today. Yes, you have more people applying for the same jobs. On the other hand, that is balanced out by people applying for more jobs. It's hard to claim that applying for more jobs involves more work, though there is certainly a negative psychological impact.

        On the other hand, knowing where to look (then or now) cuts out a lot of the competition. Having a social network feeding you that information cuts out even more competition.

    • spicyusername 14 minutes ago
      Simplicity and convenience are often inversely correlated.

      Life was for sure simpler in times gone by, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was better. Definitely different.

      I'm sure future posters will look back on these years with fondness for this or that as well.

    • whaleofatw2022 22 minutes ago
      Used to flip both ways...

      I.e. for a time, it became easier for talented people to find a better role.

      In the last 5-10 years though, between the race to the bottom and AI/Bot spam (even ignoring the overall decrease in job availability) things frankly suck.

  • aksss 44 minutes ago
    Very self-satisfied, and deservedly so. Like when you use that one piece of scrap wood in the garage you've been saving for this one occasion, or something from that drawer of metric-threaded bolts that just saves the project you're working on. It was all worth it, see? This is why we do it. No different with the author's digital preservation and online tool use. Pleasant read.
  • pudgywalsh 42 minutes ago
    How tech company HR departments game the system for PERM jobs: A newspaper classifieds story
  • mikestew 1 hour ago
    In case the headline makes no sense, the original title before being mangled by the HN headline censor:

    "How We Used to Get Jobs".

    • tomhow 1 hour ago
      Fixed, thanks!
    • kgwgk 1 hour ago
      Thanks. What a pity, the mutilated title sounded promising.