iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com

(developer.apple.com)

90 points | by K7PJP 1 hour ago

11 comments

  • postalcoder 49 minutes ago
    I've noticed a chilling new trend of apple listening to the community.
    • nate 37 minutes ago
      Anyone have a theory why this even made it to this point? the switch was such obviously a bad idea. just corporate weirdness that no one there bothered to raise their hand and be like "uh, are we really doing this?" or was there a story here that anyone knows about?
      • jofzar 6 minutes ago
        It's email reputation, it the always the answer with this kind of stuff.

        My guess is that the bounce rate got too high and bot farms were using iCloud addresses like this.

      • super256 12 minutes ago
        Maybe hidemyemail allows easily creating many accounts on a site. And some big site didn't like it.

        The "Sign-up via Apple" button and creating an iCloud email yourself have a slightly higher barrier than creating a new throwaway hidemyemail email (1 API call w/o captcha/phone verification or whatever).

        We might find out later this year if some site starts blocking @icloud.com but keeps allowing @private.icloud.com.

  • hollow-moe 43 minutes ago
    Using icloud.com domain for legit and hidden adresses is such a typical Apple strategy of holding their own users and "others" (ie. other web services, other users etc) hostage simultaneously. But at least here it is actually a good reason that works for the user.
  • joshuat 49 minutes ago
    I'm glad they listened - I use this feature extensively and would like to continue to
  • xaviervn 32 minutes ago
    I don't understand how this changes anything. IIRC, the complaints were about Apple making the Hide My Email addresses different than regular ones.

    They're now saying the new domain will be private.icloud.com. Isn't it just as targetable?

    • NobodyNada 29 minutes ago
      It's talking about two different services:

      > Sign in with Apple addresses, previously issued on privaterelay.appleid.com, will be issued on private.icloud.com.

      > iCloud+ Hide My Email addresses will remain on icloud.com.

    • LoganDark 21 minutes ago
      Sign in with Apple is Apple's SSO, like Sign in with Google. Services have to support this one explicitly, and it already had a special subdomain, so the specific subdomain is simply changing.

      Hide My Email is the manually generated ones, for websites that accept an arbitrary email address. This is the one where it's valuable for the relays to be identical to genuine iCloud addresses, otherwise websites could try to block it and force you to use a more revealing email address, undermining privacy.

  • NotThatFast 17 minutes ago
    One of the best things about it. Also being able to add several emails per custom domain for free.

    Whole thing is 99c a month. Makes Gmail seem like a joke in comparison.

    Until you get an email from an iCloud address on Gmail and see it go right to spam haha. Suddenly Gmail is cheap again

  • amazingamazing 52 minutes ago
    Good. What else can really be said? Only way for it to work and not be trivially blocked is to mix with legit emails.
    • jambalaya8 27 minutes ago
      A lot of places also don't really like icloud addresses in general. This is one of Apple's better offerings though.
  • prism56 52 minutes ago
    Good! Was there ever a compelling reason why they went for this switch initially?
    • floam 50 minutes ago
      Yes, to fully fix a certain class of bug on their infra.
      • culi 45 minutes ago
        Do you know any more about it or have a link where I can read more?
  • floam 51 minutes ago
    Good. This would have made blocking them trivial.
  • delduca 51 minutes ago
    That was a stupid idea (the prev one)
  • trueno 36 minutes ago
    thank god -.-