AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

(hermit-tech.com)

46 points | by degamad 1 hour ago

14 comments

  • sriniwasx 5 minutes ago
    The code smell in my repos are at an all time high and I'm a senior dev, can't image how worse vibe coders have it.
  • ilitirit 1 minute ago
    I tried really hard to get senior management to understand this where I work. Yes, AI is an accelerator, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to accelerate you in the "right" direction.
  • dr_dshiv 31 minutes ago
    “I wanted to see if I can get in on this 10x magic. I decided to put my money where my mouth was and I bought $10 worth of DeepSeek credits to use with a project I was working on.“

    Wow. I guess that’s the punchline!

    • reconnecting 15 minutes ago
      I'm sure DeepSeek isn't the point here. You can change the name to whatever you prefer and the article still holds.

      Actually, I think the author put DeepSeek on purpose to avoid the obvious ChatGPT/Claude comparison — because whatever he chose, there would be a question of why model A and not B, while the point of the article isn't about models comparison at all.

      • paduc 11 minutes ago
        Maybe the failure is in trying only one model / one prompt.
  • Lapalux 40 minutes ago
    Pre-AI, the limiter on my bad code was how much code I could type in a day.....

    Now with AI I can 10x my output and 10x my bad code!

    • bwhiting2356 8 minutes ago
      Whoever is giving a bad coder resources and access will eventually stop
  • Zakis1 32 minutes ago
    > Uses only DeepSeek and comes to the conclusion that LLM's are bad at coding?

    Why not use actual frontier models, and you know do some real research, before writing a blog post?

  • blfr 31 minutes ago
    There are some good points, and I ask the question of where is the ground breaking stuff myself, but severely weakened by

    * stretching the timeline: the actual real programming ability appeared in LLMs in the last 6-8 months, not 3-4 years,

    * using the weakest possible tool: and I bought $10 worth of DeepSeek credits that is a far cry from Claude with Fable.

    Also, I know nothing about marathons but for most uses putting the app, database, and background processes on the same server is very much the right starting point. With the next steps being employing Cloudflare or similar solutions long before managing a fleet of servers.

    • uxhacker 8 minutes ago
      Is the issue that nobody has come up with the idea for the great ground breaking ideas?

      Or B that the ideas are there but are not get released as the code is ai slop?

    • Marazan 13 minutes ago
      I remember being told in early 2025 that only now has "real programming ability" appeared in LLMs.

      And since then there's been 3 more "now real programming ability has been made available and previous stuff was just toy examples" cycles (summer 2025, winter 2025 and spring 2026)

      Looking forward to the next "everything before this was trivial and bad, here's the good stuff" moment

  • reconnecting 29 minutes ago
    'Or else admit this is a dopamine game that makes you feel like The Universe's Most Special Programmer™ when it's really just gamified mass-scale intellectual dependency.'

    Disesdi Shoshana Cox

  • imafish 7 minutes ago
    His AI experience is $10 of DeepSeek - but I think he is right anyway in the main points.

    You can most definitely ship crap much faster than you used to. It's obvious to anyone when you're shipping crap. And it seems everywhere I look people are shipping crap. Both software and writing.

    The hardest part of shipping quality software is not and has never been "writing the code". The hard parts are product taste, architecture and ensuring your product actually solves the problems it should in an efficient and secure manner.

    If you don't have an intuition of those, you will likely still be shipping crap. Just faster.

  • lelanthran 29 minutes ago
    Previously, the limit on bad code entering any serious product was gated by having devs that at least knew how to change what they copied from SO.

    Seriously, that was the lowest level of skill I saw in 30 years of development.

    Now we have people who can't even do that proudly showing off PRs to widely used products.

    "B-b-but I do the systems design and hard thinking".

    Sure, buddy.

    • Gigachad 27 minutes ago
      At least once a week I have to drop what I'm doing and race in to stop the non dev manager from merging a fully vibe coded patch which will blow up production. Claude Code has made this guy a negative 10x developer.
      • bwhiting2356 13 minutes ago
        how does this non dev manager have perms to do this
  • bwhiting2356 10 minutes ago
    > three AirBnBs, two Stripes, and three Dropboxes

    you want more SaaS?

  • mikenew 21 minutes ago
    > The chatbot recommended some of the dumbest shit you could possibly do

    The "I tried it and it sucked" is borderline conspiratorial at this point. There are enough talented, thoughtful developers saying there's something real here, and it is worth believing them and investing some time to understand it, even if you come out the other side and decide you don't want to use LLMs.

    Use a very good model. Set up a good harness. Spend some time on your system prompts and skills. Develop your intuitions about how the model works, what it's good at, how to scope the work, and how to steer it. Recognize when it's alleviating menial work and recognize when it's making choices you really need to understand yourself. Be patient and accept that the failures are going to be very painful for a while.

    Don't write it off until you've genuinely seen the upsides.

    • nottorp 9 minutes ago
      You describe my experience with Claude (except my gut feeling is that system prompts and especially skills are useless, and I've even done limited testing that agrees with that).

      However, your discourse is not the usual borderline religious discourse that's used by LLM advocates. You're not extreme enough either pro or against LLMs :)

    • bigstrat2003 11 minutes ago
      > Don't write it off until you've genuinely seen the upsides.

      This is ridiculous. Basically you're saying "if you try it and find it sucks, you're wrong, keep at it until you change your mind". That isn't a tool at that point, it's a religion.

      • MattPalmer1086 4 minutes ago
        No, it just means you have to learn to use the tool well.
      • cindyllm 8 minutes ago
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  • pacifika 19 minutes ago
    If you don’t understand how the sausage was made you have made legacy sausage.
    • bwhiting2356 14 minutes ago
      when I tell codex to build me a chat app and it uses gpt-4o
  • itsram_sk 17 minutes ago
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  • coatmatter 12 minutes ago
    If one truly believes it's not in a bubble, then borrow and leverage an unlimited amount and bet the house & your family on creating a business with infinite growth and value. Don't know how to do your own prompts? Borrow and then hire others to do it for you. If those who you hire don't know, they can hire others too.*

    [* This is not financial advice. Please don't actually do this.]

    • dvt 8 minutes ago
      You could make the converse argument, too: why don't you borrow and leverage and bet and short these AI companies, if you so vehemently think it's a bubble?

      The bottom line is that markets are complicated, useful technologies are often accompanied by bubbles, investors are not always rational, and people generally try to make the best decision with the information they have available. The answer is likely somewhere in the middle, but that's a lot more boring and a lot less inflammatory.

    • joha4270 1 minute ago
      While I do believe its a bubble, that seems like a silly viewpoint that presumes infinite risk tolerance.