8 comments

  • jjcm 19 minutes ago
    > Warning: AI benchmarks. Please don't trust them

    I like that they're being up front about this. Benchmarks are a metric that can be gamed. They give you an approximate estimate of where things land, but you really need to test for your use case.

  • nico 30 minutes ago
    In case you need something a bit more lightweight, or want privacy. You can get amazing (better in a lot of cases) accuracy and performance from local models that run and train on CPU: https://jeffyclassify.com/blog/when-llms-fail-at-classificat...
    • aryabakh 7 minutes ago
      I used the model and it was good enough for email classification. I was wondering if I'm supposed to be doing multiple runs for topic classification with grouping related topics i.e. if its sport,economy or tech related news and then another run for soccer,basketball or something else or batching them like the News article topic classification example in a single run.
  • tyushk 27 minutes ago
    Cool to see another model with support for bounding boxes on images. Really wish to see segmentation in a future release; Gemini 3.5 Flash-Lite is mandatory in my use case as it's the best model for semantic image segmentation in my experience.
    • moonu 17 minutes ago
      Curious why you use Gemini 3.5 Flash Lite instead of SAM/Moondream? Any specific workflows where it outperforms?
  • jofzar 18 minutes ago
    Interesting way to release this, I'm not sure how to say this, but this has a real "enterprise"/old school taste to it verses how all the other models/AI companies are releasing things.

    Very refreshing.

  • yipinwong 33 minutes ago
    Sounds like an incremental change with context size change, new "box" type, and composable images.

    As it's minor change did not expect much, but having a higher context helps for sure. I will own the errors for passing bigger context.

    • therealpygon 24 minutes ago
      Well, they do need to try to compete with SubQ’s longer context and image processing that has been coming out ahead in benchmarks, plus the thousand self-hosted options that now exist.
  • hexasquid 26 minutes ago
    I'm curious what people are building with these models
    • Rudybega 4 minutes ago
      I use it as a drop in replacement for LLMs I had previously doing filtering and classification in a pipeline. It's loads cheaper and faster with roughly equivalent performance on my own internal tests. The confidence scores (which are also reasonably well calibrated on my data) are a super nice bonus.
    • nazgul17 15 minutes ago
      Automatic tagging of images is what I'm doing with it. I'm using a modified Gemma model, which ingests images (and audio, for that matter).
    • LewisOrton 14 minutes ago
      it's actually more usefull than it looks. it is not much useful on its own but it can play a big role in a complex workflow or custom harness.

      i used luna 5.6 as the ranker/filter to remove useless items from upstream rag(mixing embedding, regex etc) and it did a good job but took 5-10 seconds each time. now less than 1 second and no observable precision loss. hope it helps

    • ASalazarMX 23 minutes ago
      Judging from the tilte, I guess dreams.
  • matt3210 27 minutes ago
    How does JEV prevent distillation?
    • nico 26 minutes ago
      I don't think they can. But they probably monitor usage and test for patterns to then block/ban accounts
  • benaduggan 33 minutes ago
    So they held back a bunch of features because they knew they had basically no moat, and now they're trickling out a bit more functionality to try to convince people they are better than others and move fast? And using Apple advert slogans to show how cool they are?
    • aryabakh 31 minutes ago
      With the speed they're adding features shows you're correct.
    • ranger_danger 22 minutes ago
      Which others?