Starfall – Affordable, routine access to microgravity

(spacex.com)

90 points | by gmays 2 hours ago

13 comments

  • syntaxing 1 hour ago
    Space datacenters sounds dumb and impractical to me. Manufacturing semi conductor in space is actually a pretty interesting idea. I designed a few PVD, CVD, and IBE machines before. Ion thrusters from NASA are what semi conductors use as their source anyway. I can see the business proposition for processes like MBE that requires -12 pressure. It takes days, if not weeks to pump a chamber to those values.
    • reissbaker 44 minutes ago
      FWIW, given how many places in the U.S. are passing datacenter bans, I'd expect space-based datacenters to make a lot more sense over the coming years just because it'll be illegal to build them anywhere else.
      • DrewADesign 2 minutes ago
        The world is a very, very large place and I have a hard time imagining space would be an easier place to do anything. Nobody wants to live near petrochemical factories or aluminum smelters, either, but we’ve got lots of petrochemicals and aluminum. SV execs shredded any chance of cheap public cooperation by presenting like cartoonishly evil, patronizing, greedy big corporate bad guys from some shitty legal dramedy. They need to learn from their mistakes, develop some humility, and approach people with a serious financial proposition, like the oil industry in Alaska. That will absolutely be a lot cheaper than space.
      • nonethewiser 2 minutes ago
        But thats a dumb reason for space data centers to be good ideas.
      • nradov 12 minutes ago
        I don't support data center bans but even if that happens in the US I'm pretty sure some other countries will welcome them. For AI inference workloads the network latency doesn't matter.
    • 15155 45 minutes ago
      Is it dumb and impractical when NIMBYs and folks directly opposed to your political agenda want to prevent any and all terrestrial datacenter development?
  • czhu12 1 hour ago
    Quite a bit of money have been raised on the premise that certain things can be easier to make in space than on earth due to gravity, which creates sedimentation

    Semiconductors, pharmaceuticals, solar cell crystals, and artificial organs are on the short list. The International space station actually has done some experiments on this premise with promising results

  • dakial1 1 hour ago
    Here is something that I never imagined there was a use case for. Anyone has any idea of the commercial needs for such a device?
  • nonethewiser 4 minutes ago
    Your kids, if you are fortunate enough to have any, are going to ask how you could have been bearish on SpaceX.
  • drivebyhooting 1 hour ago
    It sounds like a super villain weapon.

    If you manufacture there how do you recover it?

    • Polizeiposaune 1 hour ago
      The Starfall capsule has enough deltaV to deorbit, a heat shield, and parachutes.

      So you tell them where to deliver it (anywhere on the planet that its orbit goes over..), they tell you when it will be arriving, and it reenters and lands there.

      Article about a recent test (launched on a Falcon 9):

      https://www.afrl.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/4629122...

    • itishappy 1 hour ago
      You're not wrong! It looks that way because it's a reentry vehicle. You put this thing in a low orbit which decays over the course of a few weeks until it eventually falls from space, then you go find it.
      • bamboozled 33 minutes ago
        Doesn't sound dangerous at all.
        • Pedro_Ribeiro 17 minutes ago
          You realize they know how to land these things right? Are you aware?
    • ceejayoz 1 hour ago
      > If you manufacture there how do you recover it?

      The graphic shows it reentering the atmosphere.

    • Bluebird803 1 hour ago
      Presumably the same way we have always recovered payloads from space. Heat-shield + parachute. I'm assuming there would be some capability to do a retrograde maneuver so that the re-entey can be done when and where desired, rather than leaving it to the whims of pure drag.
  • Qworg 1 hour ago
    I wonder where this leaves Varda? Tough to win when your ride is also your competitor.
  • cozzyd 1 hour ago
    It would be nice if SpaceX published GNSS pseudodistance/carrier phase from all Starlink satellites. It would give excellent realtime tomographic information about the ionosphere...
  • anukin 1 hour ago
    This is amazing. Especially for biotech. A robot can do biotech in microgravity.
  • gustavus 1 hour ago
    Here's the thing I might not love Elon or everything he does and there are plenty of things to disagree with him about and I won't comment on him as a person

    But I remember watching live when they launched a Tesla into Orbit, was it dumb, was it pointless and potentially wasteful? Sure, but that moment seeing humanity once again reach out to the stars I could feel it deep in my bones the space race was starting again.

    Sure have lots of problems down here but the eternally yearning of humanity to extend out our hands to grasp the cosmos, to touch heaven is a pursuit I think highly worthwhile.

    • jtari3333 1 hour ago
      Elon turning the concept of space into the vanity project of a mentally unstable man child kinda sucks though. Makes it hard to give a shit knowing he is personally profitting from it.
      • hackyhacky 1 hour ago
        Not just profiting from it, but then reinvesting that money into subverting democracy
        • _dark_matter_ 1 hour ago
          *attempting to subvert democracy. But he may yet succeed.
        • psunavy03 1 hour ago
          I dunno, based on yesterday, the ROI on that seems to be kind of shit.
    • batperson 1 hour ago
      There's that one photo with a dummy driver in a red tesla and in the background you can see the earth. I think it's one of the best photos ever, part of it is the absurdity of the fact that it exists at all.
      • titzer 50 minutes ago
        He denied it, but it was absolutely a reference to the opening sequence to the cult classic Heavy Metal.
    • aliasxneo 1 hour ago
      We just need someone who can pass the purity test and then we can all celebrate these things. Until then we're not allowed to feel happy about it.
      • trismus 34 minutes ago
        Seig heils do fail my purity test. I think the bar is reasonable and he has spectacularly failed to clear it.
      • bamboozled 31 minutes ago
        Purity tests, the guy has indirectly killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of kids through the cancellation of US AID and you're calling this a "purity test", maybe go fuck yourself ?
        • tohnjitor 26 minutes ago
          Where have millions of children died because of lack of USAID funds?
        • aliasxneo 29 minutes ago
          Well that's not very kind.
    • everyone 49 minutes ago
      Yes, he turned space from an obscure realm of nerds into a cringe man-baby grifter domain.
  • everyone 58 minutes ago
    Why is it called microgravity and not freefall? Cus afaik you are experiencing almost the same force of gravity as you would on the surface, you are just constantly falling.
  • whalesalad 1 hour ago
    worlds most expensive colocation rack
  • loefflerlabs 48 minutes ago
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