Petered (what happens after the Peter Principle)

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19 points | by adrianhoward 56 minutes ago

6 comments

  • carschno 3 minutes ago
    I think the Peter Principle addresses a good point, but misses a critical one: the hierarchy itself. Obviously, a manager requires different skills than an engineer, so why should a good engineer be a good manager? This holds the other way round: a good manager is not particularly likely to be a good engineer.

    Both is fine, these are just different jobs. However, the problem is that the manager is 'above' the engineer in the generally accepted hierarchy. Consequently, engineers are pressured to become managers for the development. As long as this hierarchy exists, the problem will exist.

  • JSR_FDED 26 minutes ago
    After they’ve been promoted to their level of incompetence, they lean in very hard on relationships to survive.

    Organizations where they get away with this are miserable to work for, and their influence ensures nothing merit-related ever happens again. Literally the source of the famous expression “A-people hire A-people, B-people hire C-people”.

  • aetherspawn 29 minutes ago
    The word illegal used a lot, but really, how pervasive is people doing illegal stuff at work? Surely not very.
    • ZnerflBerp 0 minutes ago
      There's plenty of stuff that goes on in large organisations which sits in what I would call "minor illegality" i.e. technically illegal, but the sort of thing people are going to pretend not to notice as long as they can have plausible deniability themselves.
    • ba1afd89f34cb23 21 minutes ago
      The word “illegal” appears exactly once, paired with “unethical”. That doesn’t seem to be a major takeaway from the article to me.
    • Joel_Mckay 6 minutes ago
      Usually, all sins are forgiven if a project launches on time.

      Often it is board-level folks that have a naive understanding of the problem scope, and ruminate on their bruised ego from the harsh words burned-out staff spew.

      There is also silly folks that honestly believe they will figure anything out faster, or can get away with a quick MVP bodge before jumping firms. I would argue they form an ecosystem, that keeps people that clean up messes fully employed. =3

  • rusk 4 minutes ago
    Apropos of nothing
  • gherkinnn 19 minutes ago
    Smells awfully like the Gervais Principle to me, where the petering manager is part of the clueless class.
  • arjie 2 minutes ago
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